Actually @Singleton is a pseudo-scope, since it doesn't satisfy some of the properties that 299 demands of normal scopes. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Mark Struberg<struberg(a)yahoo.de> wrote: > Hi! > > I'm a bit confused about the description of the pseudo scopes in > the latest spec (but it's really late here, so I might missed the > point) > > a) ch 6.3: >> Any scope that is not a normal scope is called a pseudo-scope. > -> @Singleton [1] is per se only @Scope but not @NormalScope, >> The concept of a current instance is not well-defined in the case >> of a pseudo-scope. > -> but instances of @Singleton are pretty well defined, isn't? > > Maybe we should introduce @Passivating and @PseudoScope instead of > @NormalScope and invert the logic? > > b) ch 6.3 >> All pseudo-scopes must be explicitly declared @NormalScope, >> to indicate to the container that no client proxy is required. > vs ch 5.5 >> A contextual reference to a bean with a normal scope ... >> ..not a direct reference... >> Instead, the contextual reference is a client proxy object. > > I'd say pseudo scopes must _not_ declare @NormalScope? > > txs and LieGrue, > strub > > [1] http://atinject.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/javadoc/javax/inject/Singleton.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > webbeans-dev mailing list > webbeans-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/webbeans-dev > -- Gavin King gavin.king(a)gmail.com http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Gavin http://hibernate.org http://seamframework.org _______________________________________________ webbeans-dev mailing list webbeans-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/webbeans-dev

Actually @Singleton is a pseudo-scope, since it doesn't satisfy some of the properties that 299 demands of normal scopes.

From: Gavin King <gavin.king(a)gmail.com&gt; To: Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: Mark Struberg <struberg(a)yahoo.de>; &quot;webbeans-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&quot; <webbeans-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:53:04 PM Subject: Re: [webbeans-dev] @NormalScope and @Singleton Thanks, fixed Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Pete Muir wrote: > This sentence clearly needs fixing though > > 6.3, 20090812 - "All pseudo-scopes must be explicitly declared @NormalScope, to indicate to the container that no client proxy is required." > > On 20 Aug 2009, at 04:15, Gavin King wrote: > >> Actually @Singleton is a pseudo-scope, since it doesn't satisfy some >> of the properties that 299 demands of normal scopes. >> >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Mark Strubergwrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I'm a bit confused about the description of the pseudo scopes in the latest spec (but it's really late here, so I might missed the point) >>> >>> a) ch 6.3: >>>> Any scope that is not a normal scope is called a pseudo-scope. >>> -> @Singleton [1] is per se only @Scope but not @NormalScope, >>>> The concept of a current instance is not well-defined in the case of a pseudo-scope. >>> -> but instances of @Singleton are pretty well defined, isn't? >>> >>> Maybe we should introduce @Passivating and @PseudoScope instead of @NormalScope and invert the logic? >>> >>> b) ch 6.3 >>>> All pseudo-scopes must be explicitly declared @NormalScope, >>>> to indicate to the container that no client proxy is required. >>> vs ch 5.5 >>>> A contextual reference to a bean with a normal scope ... >>>> ..not a direct reference... >>>> Instead, the contextual reference is a client proxy object. >>> >>> I'd say pseudo scopes must _not_ declare @NormalScope? >>> >>> txs and LieGrue, >>> strub >>> >>> [1] http://atinject.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/javadoc/javax/inject/Singleton.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> webbeans-dev mailing list >>> webbeans-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/webbeans-dev >>> >> >> >> >> --Gavin King >> gavin.king(a)gmail.com >> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Gavin >> http://hibernate.org >> http://seamframework.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> webbeans-dev mailing list >> webbeans-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/webbeans-dev >