Hi Emily, Yes I am already working on that. As I commented on the isssue. Thank's Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily Jiang" <emijiang6(a)googlemail.com&gt; To: "Jozef Hartinger" <jharting(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: "cdi-tck" <cdi-tck(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, "Weld-Dev List" < weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:31:31 AM Subject: Re: [cdi-tck] [weld-dev] cdi tck: org.jboss.cdi.tck.tests.context.application.event.ApplicationScopeEventMultiWarTest Thank you Jozef! By the way, the tck-484 was logged a few days ago but its description was not clear enough, so Tomas Remes had some question on it. With my detailed explaination, can you guys work together to get this issue solved? Thank you very much! On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Jozef Hartinger < jharting(a)redhat.com > wrote: Hi Emily, I cannot find anything in the CDI spec that would prevent lazy initialization of the web container. Therefore, I think you are right and the test should be modified. There is already a CDI TCK ticket at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDITCK-484 Jozef On 05/24/2015 04:21 PM, Emily Jiang wrote: I am trying to run the cdi tck: org.jboss.cdi.tck.tests.context.application.event.ApplicationScopeEventMultiWarTest Method: testDeployment It seems this test is to verify whether both web modules receive the initilization event of ApplicationScoped. The confusing bit is that the test directly verfies whether both events are received without trying to send request to activate the web modules. I think the test assume web modules are active and did not consider the fact of that some application server starts the modules in a lazy mode. The CDI spec says: The application scope is active: • during the service() method of any servlet in the web application, during the doFilter() method of any servlet filter and when the container calls any ServletContextListener, HttpSessionListener, AsyncListener or ServletRequestListener According to cdi spec 6.7.3: An event with qualifier @Initialized(ApplicationScoped.class) is fired when the application context is initialized and an event with qualifier @Destroyed(ApplicationScoped.class) is fired when the application is destroyed. The event payload is: • the ServletContext if the application is a web application deployed to a Servlet container, or • any java.lang.Object for other types of application. The spec did not say whether the event should be recieved. In my environment, if the web module url is hit, the obeserved event will be obsevered. I think we have implemented this correctly as I can confirm the application scope is active when a request is sent and the event of @Initialized(ApplicationScoped.class) is received as well but the test assumes the web module is active automatically without even needing to send the first request. Can someone shed some lights on this? What is the test trying to do? I am suggesting the test should be updated to send the first request first before checking the size of the obsevers. I did not directly send to cdi tck as I would like to get some input from weld dev list first. -- Thanks Emily ================= Emily Jiang ejiang(a)apache.org _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev -- Thanks Emily ================= Emily Jiang ejiang(a)apache.org _______________________________________________