Von: Pete Muir <pmuir(a)bleepbleep.org.uk&gt; Betreff: [weld-dev] GIT An: &quot;seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&quot; <seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, &quot;weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&quot; <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Datum: Samstag, 21. November 2009, 12:20 A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and then contribute them back to us. The proposal is to use Github to host. The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? Pete -- Pete Muir http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

Works for me, personally. As an outsider, it's obviously more friendly for non-JBoss employees like me to contribute. I am still waiting on someone to tag those Weld Maven archetypes I submitted so I can commit to trunk for review without worrying about breaking anything. With git, that wouldn't be an issue.

I have only used it for personal projects, though. I don't know if it'll make life easier or harder for whoever has to manage these releases. Pete Muir wrote: > A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to > GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. > > This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev > model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and > then contribute them back to us. > > The proposal is to use Github to host. > > The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? > > Pete > > -- > Pete Muir > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > _______________________________________________ > weld-dev mailing list > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev > _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)bleepbleep.org.uk&gt; wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2009, at 14:15, Steven Boscarine wrote: > > > Works for me, personally. > > > > As an outsider, it's obviously more friendly for non-JBoss employees > > like me to contribute.  I am still waiting on someone to tag those Weld > > Maven archetypes I submitted so I can commit to trunk for review without > > worrying about breaking anything.  With git, that wouldn't be an issue. > > You are welcome to tag whenever you want :-) > > But I agree, GIT supports distributed development much better. +1 I think this is amongst the most compelling reasons, perhaps even the most compelling. It was so simple for me to get involved with the maven-cli-plugin because it was hosted with git, and I want that same experience for developers getting involved with Seam and Weld. -Dan -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty complicated to learn to use... OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it confortable... apparently the way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users to understand... AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it seems to work well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg project is advanced and usable... Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... Why not Mercurial? Pete Muir escribió: > A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to > GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. > > This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev > model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and > then contribute them back to us. > > The proposal is to use Github to host. > > The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? > > Pete > > -- > Pete Muir > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > >

I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. Sell us Mercurial :-) On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > An interesting comparision?: > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > > > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> complicated to learn to use... >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> confortable... apparently the >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion >> users >> to understand... >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> seems to work >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> project is advanced and usable... >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to >>> switch to >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >>> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox >>> PEs and >>> then contribute them back to us. >>> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >>> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others >>> think? >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> -- >>> Pete Muir >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seam-dev mailing list >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, > archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información > confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la > Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el > derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta > información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional > o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por > error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta > información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o > reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no > intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y > puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal > y civil vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. Sell us Mercurial :-) On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > An interesting comparision?: > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > > > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> complicated to learn to use... >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> confortable... apparently the >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users >> to understand... >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> seems to work >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> project is advanced and usable... >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >>> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and >>> then contribute them back to us. >>> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >>> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> -- >>> Pete Muir >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seam-dev mailing list >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

A nice out of the box hosting option for Mercurial? I think I mentioned GoogleCode... or there are many options to choose: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialHosting Dan Allen escribió: We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.comexplains so well how to use it. I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because of that. -Dan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have > most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. > > Sell us Mercurial :-) > > On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > > > An interesting comparision?: > > > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > > > > > > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: > >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty > >> complicated to learn to use... > >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it > >> confortable... apparently the > >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users > >> to understand... > >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it > >> seems to work > >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, > >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg > >> project is advanced and usable... > >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... > >> Why not Mercurial? > >> > >> > >> > >> Pete Muir escribió: > >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to > >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. > >>> > >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev > >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and > >>> then contribute them back to us. > >>> > >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. > >>> > >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? > >>> > >>> Pete > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Pete Muir > >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> seam-dev mailing list > >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, > archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información > confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la > Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho > fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por > cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha > recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda > inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, > diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica > por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está > autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación > penal y civil vigente. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seam-dev mailing list > > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > weld-dev mailing list > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev > -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen -- Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

I've looked at both and the one major difference is the branching model in hg. Many people have coined it "broken" but those may all be in the past. As far as tooling goes I think you'll find decent support either way. Would Fisheye and JIRA still be used or would the services of the host be used instead? That may also be something to consider.

We would continue to use JIRA. I guess we wouldn't use fisheye anymore.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > Personally, I've never found fisheye useful. >

Here is an article about GIT for those getting started. On 24 Nov 2009, at 16:07, Ashish Tonse wrote: > +1 for git/github. > > Echoing what others have said, I think github is ultimately what makes git the most attractive, all things considered. Github makes it incredibly easy to fork and propose pushes. > > Google code seems to be better suited for smaller projects, even though google uses it for their even larger projects. For an open source project with outside contributors, it's essential to have a good "hub" - and github serves that purpose extremely well. > > Just my 15 cents (inflation). > > Ashish > PS: I'm tempted to further splinter this debate by proposing Bazaar :) (with Ubuntu's launchpad) > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Francisco Jose Peredo < franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx&gt; wrote: > A nice out of the box hosting option for Mercurial? I think I mentioned GoogleCode... or there are many options to choose: > > http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialHosting > > Dan Allen escribió: >> We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.comexplains so well how to use it. >> >> I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because of that. >> >> -Dan >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. >> >> Sell us Mercurial :-) >> >> On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: >> >> > An interesting comparision?: >> > >> > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ >> > >> > >> > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> >> complicated to learn to use... >> >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> >> confortable... apparently the >> >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users >> >> to understand... >> >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> >> seems to work >> >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> >> project is advanced and usable... >> >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >> >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >> >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >> >>> >> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >> >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and >> >>> then contribute them back to us. >> >>> >> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >> >>> >> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >> >>> >> >>> Pete >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Pete Muir >> >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> seam-dev mailing list >> >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros >> > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental >> > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas >> > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma >> > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. >> > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 >> > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ >> > >> > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > seam-dev mailing list >> > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> weld-dev mailing list >> weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Dan Allen >> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action >> Registered Linux User #231597 >> >> http://mojavelinux.com >> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction >> http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. > > > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > weld-dev mailing list > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

Von: Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com&gt; Betreff: Re: [seam-dev] [weld-dev] Mercurial vs GIT An: "Pete Muir" <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; CC: &quot;seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&quot; <seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, &quot;weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&quot; <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Datum: Freitag, 27. November 2009, 19:26 Here's the link to NFJS magazine: http://www.nofluffjuststuff.com/home/magazine_subscribe -Dan On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Note that this article is courtesy of No Fluff Just Stuff Magazine. I encourage all of you to check out that magazine because it's own of very few (if not the only) decent OSS developer magazine these days. The subscription is $50/year and all the authors are NFJS speakers. -Dan On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: Here is an article about GIT for those getting started. On 24 Nov 2009, at 16:07, Ashish Tonse wrote: > +1 for git/github. > > Echoing what others have said, I think github is ultimately what makes git the most attractive, all things considered. Github makes it incredibly easy to fork and propose pushes. > > Google code seems to be better suited for smaller projects, even though google uses it for their even larger projects. For an open source project with outside contributors, it's essential to have a good "hub" - and github serves that purpose extremely well. > > Just my 15 cents (inflation). > > Ashish > PS: I'm tempted to further splinter this debate by proposing Bazaar :) (with Ubuntu's launchpad) > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Francisco Jose Peredo <franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx&gt; wrote: > A nice out of the box hosting option for Mercurial? I think I mentioned GoogleCode... or there are many options to choose: > > http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialHosting > > Dan Allen escribió: >> We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.com explains so well how to use it. >> >> I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because of that. >> >> -Dan >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. >> >> Sell us Mercurial :-) >> >> On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: >> >> > An interesting comparision?: >> > >> > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ >> > >> > >> > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> >> complicated to learn to use... >> >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> >> confortable... apparently the >> >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users >> >> to understand... >> >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> >> seems to work >> >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> >> project is advanced and usable... >> >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >> >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >> >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >> >>> >> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >> >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and >> >>> then contribute them back to us. >> >>> >> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >> >>> >> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >> >>> >> >>> Pete >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Pete Muir >> >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> seam-dev mailing list >> >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros >> > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental >> > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas >> > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma >> > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. >> > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 >> > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ >> > >> > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. 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We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.com explains so well how to use it. I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because of that. -Dan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. Sell us Mercurial :-) On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > An interesting comparision?: > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > > > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> complicated to learn to use... >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> confortable... apparently the >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users >> to understand... >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> seems to work >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> project is advanced and usable... >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >>> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and >>> then contribute them back to us. >>> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >>> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> -- >>> Pete Muir >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seam-dev mailing list >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

I also just created a bitbucket account, which seems to offer everything that github does. Francisco's article makes good reading, and especially as we are all used to SVN, SVN compatible commands are a good idea ;-) Finally, migration to Mercurial looks possible from SVN, and tool support looks fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Linus Torvalds: "If you like using CVS, you should be in a mental institution, somewhere else." @ 08:30 he likes bitkeeper (commercial) and doesn't like SVN. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Boscarine, Steven <Steven.Boscarine(a)childrens.harvard.edu&gt; wrote: > > +1 vote for Git > I've seen a lot of Git momentum locally. > > ________________________________________ > From: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] > On Behalf Of Mark Struberg [struberg(a)yahoo.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:07 PM > To: Jason Lee; Pete Muir > Cc: Francisco Jose Peredo; seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org; > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Subject: Re: [weld-dev] [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT > > Hi! > > While both hg and Git provide pretty the same functionality, there is a > huge difference in the supported tooling set. > > .) maven will (most probably) move to Git. Most of maven folks already use > Git internally. > .) there is a native Java Git client called JGit. There will be a jgit > provider for maven in the not too distant future. Thus we don't need to care > about OS issues! > .) hg is written in Python. Windows users will need to install Python. For > git you don't have to install anything. The JGit jar will simply be a > dependency of maven-scm. > .) There are native plugins for Eclipse (written by Shawn Spearce), > NetBeans (written by Jonas Fonesca) and Idea (provided by Intellij). > > And the main reason for my personally: Im an old bearded Unix guy :) > > Btw, there is also a migration scenario from SVN to Git. It is even > possible to let Git play being a SVN server, so you can access a Git repo > with a SVN client. > > LieGrue, > strub > _______________________________________________ > weld-dev mailing list > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and then contribute them back to us. The proposal is to use Github to host. The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? Pete -- Pete Muir http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev