Are there plan to have a way to run a pure j2se+JPA+CDI+Weld application containing Seam 3 components? In it's time, I have open this JIRA/feature request to add this feature to Seam 2: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-1680 Most of our applications have a need to run "batch" processes that run outside a container, ie process thousand of "items" during off peak hours (ie at night), but share many of the business logic and the JPA model. Our applications are designed to isolated "shared" business logic (ie batch+web) in a separate module and use only "Application Scope" Seam 2 components Currently we use some kind of "JUnit" techniques to boostrap our apps, ie manual bootstratp of the JPA data source (Hibernate), manual control of the transaction boundaries and manually injecting Application Scope Components. We have written a kind of "SeamTest" class that scans all of our components that may be called by the batch process and inject the base objects (logguer, other managers, EM etc..). Something that we currently miss is to reuse the PDF and Excel components as they depends on facelets/JSF and cannot easily run outside some kind of container... I don't have a deep knowledge of CDI and Weld, but it seem those should help for this. The questions remains for Seam 3. Is there some interest for this? The first thing could be to define the specs and "limits" of what can be done and what cannot (Define the authorized scopes, the way the EM ans transactions are managed, what "modules" (I18N, PDF etc ) can be used. Of course anything related to web woule not be allowed (Security, "pages.xml/navigation", etc..), and maybe define some kind of "SeamBatch" class that would take care of all the Seam components, and maybe add some batch specific annotations (or non-container specific) for transaction boundaries Thx _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev