Re: [jboss-cluster-dev] [Fwd: Re: Infinispan in JBoss AS]

On 10 Jul 2009, at 18:14, Jason T. Greene wrote: > Manik Surtani wrote: >> I know this should be a separate thread, but isn't building two >> separate management mechanisms counter-intuitive? E.g., I was hoping >> JOPR could provide standalone cluster/grid management for Infinispan >> as well. I am in Stuttgart next week to speak at their JUG and am >> hoping to catch up with Heiko Rupp to discuss this stuff. >> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-126 >> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/ISPN-127 > > Where we draw the line was a topic discussed recently with the JON > team. The consensus was that the management APIS of the AS need to > encompass a cluster/domain, while JOPR manages multiple > clusters/domain. There is no duplication here because both management > views (jopr or embedded jopr) expose the same capabilities using the > same central control point (the as profile service management api). > > This is for the following reasons: > > 1) The embedded console needs to be capable of doing it > 2) Users/customers need to be able to automate this programmatically > from their own provisioning tools, scripts etc. > 3) Consistency between the cluster configuration and the management view. > 4) The cluster manager is in the best position to control rolling > updates (configuration or deployment). Good. Then in seems like JOPR will evolve into something I can use for this, based on the information I expose to JOPR via JMX. Perfect.