fachhoch con [https://community.jboss.org/people/fachhoch] created the discussion "comming from osworkflow" To view the discussion, visit: https://community.jboss.org/message/820210#820210 -------------------------------------------------------------- I used osworkflow and now we want   to move to jBPM, tutorials of osworkflow   describe defining process difiniotaiton and using java code to start the process and perform actions and its simple persisitance layer   is self explanatory just by looking tables  we can understand how it works. in  jBPM   is it too copmplex to write the  process definition in xml  ?  does jBMP users write process difinition in xml ? I am reading the book  BPM5 Developer guide , the process definition exaplined there using BPM  was too complex   and no talk of writing it  but use the tool to create it. Is there a  tutorial explaining  writing a simple flow and using java api to start  and  persists. All I care  is defining a simple flow  in xml , use api  to start and perform actions and datamnmodel on how this is persisted in  database ? -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [https://community.jboss.org/message/820210#820210] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [https://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]