Norman I was trying to achieve several levels deep record listing in parent child hirarchy. eg: university1 ---campus1 -----course1 --------applicant1 --------applicant2 -----course2 --------applicant1 ---campus2 ... ... university2 ... I wasn't aware if rendered attributes existed for any of the Seam's iText tags since I didn't see any reference to it in Seam (2.0.1CR2) doc or in JBDev. I eventually figered out facelet fragment tag supports rendered attribute; which I used to achieve the behavious I was after. Thanks, its good knowing Seam's iText tag support rendered attribute. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4125747#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...