Giovanni Marigi [http://community.jboss.org/people/hifly81] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573280#573280 -------------------------------------------------------------- where? -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573280#573280] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

eric schabell [http://community.jboss.org/people/eschabell] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573307#573307 -------------------------------------------------------------- But I was under the impression that Drools Flow != jBPM 5... or does it? -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573307#573307] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573386#573386 -------------------------------------------------------------- Yes.. it was made based on both project experiencies, but starting from the scratch is never easy/a good option. I think if you browse jBPM4 and Alfresco Activity you will find similarities as well, at least in functionality. Greetings. -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573386#573386] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Giovanni Marigi [http://community.jboss.org/people/hifly81] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573397#573397 -------------------------------------------------------------- When i wrote jbpm5 = drools flow it wasn't a bad critique. I think drools flow is a good project; what I hope for jbpm5 is a good integration with jboss esb and the developing of new built-in nodes (connector). And I think jbpm5 must be integrated with a jboss bam solution -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573397#573397] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573443#573443 -------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not sure to understand your question. In jBPM5 you can express and execute your processes using the BPMN2.0 notation and execution semantics. -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573443#573443] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573453#573453 -------------------------------------------------------------- You load the xml representation of the processes and then you can execute them using the APIs. As in any BPMS framework. I think that it's all explained in the Drools Flow Documentation and in the jBPM5 doc too -> https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/jBPM5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/ta... https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/jBPM5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/ta... Greetings -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573453#573453] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573459#573459 -------------------------------------------------------------- You can use BPMN2.0 in both.. they practically offer the same features. In Drools Flow you also have a more project related language called RuleFlow but right now the defacto language is BPMN2.0. -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573459#573459] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573464#573464 -------------------------------------------------------------- For what I've heard the main advantage is that for future releases you can get official support. No difference in features. Right now jBPM5 is in the first releases. If you enter in the drools IRC channel you will see a topic that explains this situation: "#Drools Drools Flow is being refactored for the jBPM5 release. On release jBPM5 should be the same, or almost the same, as the final refactored Drools Flow. Users should use Drools Flow for now, until we say further. But feel free to look at jBPM5 too, if you are intrigued, just bear in mind it's a work in progress." I hope that explains the current status. Greetings -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573464#573464] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573469#573469 -------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, that's the idea. There will be an easy migration path. Because you will be using BPMN2.0 processes and the execution framework will be too similar you will not need to do major changes in your application to migrate. Greetings. -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573469#573469] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Odelya Holiday [http://community.jboss.org/people/odelyaholiday] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573584#573584 -------------------------------------------------------------- I think that another difference is that DroolsFlow produces RuleFlow XML while jBPM produces BPMN2.0 xml. can one convert from RuleFlow XML to BPEL? -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573584#573584] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Odelya Holiday [http://community.jboss.org/people/odelyaholiday] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/573628#573628 -------------------------------------------------------------- Can I rely on the docs to execute programs? When do you plan jBPM5 to be completed? -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/573628#573628] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Kris Verlaenen [http://community.jboss.org/people/KrisVerlaenen] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/574617#574617 -------------------------------------------------------------- Just to make sure we're all on the same page:  jBPM5 is based on the best of both jBPM3/4 and Drools Flow (and we tried to make sure we didn't miss any important features so it should be better than any its predecessors ;)).  The biggest difference will be the use of BPMN2 (while both jBPM4 and Drools Flow already had some BPMN2 capabilities, jBPM5 is the first version that really focusses on it). It will become the new supported BPM solution (meaning it will replace jBPM3/4 and Drools Flow in time).  A first community release will be ready by the end of this year.  Productization will take place during 2011, and official training will probably not be offered before that time, but as you can see, the community might be able to help out there. Hope that clear up everything for everyone ;) Kris -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/574617#574617] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: jbpm5 training courses" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/587330#587330 -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Jonathan, jBPM5 will only replace Drools Flow.. indeed it has the same concepts. Drools flow will not exist anymore, and all the code base from it was rebranded to jBPM5. You don't need to worry about that. Hope it helps! Greetings -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/587330#587330] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]