@Pete Muir: At first let me thank you for your response but some part I don't get so let us fiddle this out ;). You said: anonymous wrote : * the source for your changes need to be submitted in diff format, ideally fairly fine grained (obfuscator seam component, mathematical captcha component, email address JSF component, obfuscator JSF component) | * MathCaptchaResponseValidator appears to be unused | * Patch should be against seam source tree (not com.example, another faces-config etc) | | Further, we are currently trying to work out what the role of JSF components is in Seam. I think we need to hold on commiting the JSF components for now. 1. I purposefully didn't use the patch format because I thought it's easier for you to integrate this way and my code doesn't rely on existing seam code. Further my code is "fine grained" - like you demanded. So all you / the seam developers have to do is to rename the classes & merge faces-config.xml, jsf-ui.taglib.xml, taglib.tld into JBossSeam/src/ui. 2. I might be wrong but AFAIK MathCaptchaResponseValidator does the same job as org.jboss.seam.captcha.CaptchaResponseValidator - that means it gets called by the hibernate validator and relays validation to the MathCaptcha component. 3. please see 1. 4. This part I don't understand: "Further, we are currently trying to work out what the role of JSF components is in Seam. I think we need to hold on commiting the JSF components for now." My hopes just were that you include it in jboss-seam-ui.jar so it can be used like s:link, s:cache, ... However: My intention was to give you a working example as proof of concept but if you insist on using the patch format I can give it a try (I haven't used it before but I have trust in my eclipse so this will probably work ;)). I'm looking forward to your response. Regards Stephan View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4041610#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...