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Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion
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In my opinion, having another agnostic BPMN2 editor inside the IntelliJ idea and Netbeans
will be great to promote the use of these tools.
I'm not saying that they need to implement all the parsers that now can be shared and
reused, but they can build simple editors to open those diagrams in different IDEs.
I'm completely against Eclipse and looking at how people is migrating from
eclipse/netbeans to intelliJ idea I think that it will be a good idea to have a BPMN2
editor as well as rules syntax highlighting (which already exists).
Cheers
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Tihomir Surdilovic [http://community.jboss.org/people/tsurdilovic] created the discussion
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The first issue you are going to run into is that if you follow the OMG BPMN2 schemas is
that OMG does not really consider implemtation/usability when creating their
specifications. Tools supporting BPMN2 almost always have to work as close as possible to
the specification to make it actually usable.
If you are looking for a "bang for a buck" which I think if you put any work
into it should be considered, IMO, putting time and effort into porting the graphical
editor features of the Eclipse jBPM tooling into another IDE would be best. The subset of
users who actually will want to look and edit and learn BPMN2 by looking at your pretty
syntax highlighted code is IMO very small compared to users who would want to graphically
generate processes...but again it's just my opinion :)
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Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion
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Tiho,
Yes, I understand your point, but it should be so difficult I mean, at the end of the day
all the IDEs have their graphical tooling with support for graphs and then they just need
to hook the bpmn-emf model right? they have 50% of the job done already.
I think that the same happens with BPEL years ago when it becomes standard.
The other interesting thing that we can push forward is to create decouple applications
with those editors. Do you know any third party app that is using the eclipse plugin
inside an Eclipse RCP application? jBPM5 & Drools should provide this application that
only contains the BPMN editor, the Rules editor and the plugins used to deploy all the
stuff to the repository in contrast to just the plugins for technical people.
My two cents..
Cheers
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By the way, if we vote the issue the IntelliJ team will do it.. it will not be an effort
for the project :)
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Tihomir Surdilovic [http://community.jboss.org/people/tsurdilovic] created the discussion
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Good point. Don't think that exists now.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that if there is community involvement into
jBPM which would be so awesoem to have more of, I rather have it go into things that will
be more used than others..kinda trying to steer it ..but probably unsuccessfully :) :)
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