"kennardconsulting" wrote : if I declare a heirarchical JNDI queue in my destinations-service.xml it shouldn't fail just because I don't also deploy an app that depends on it. | You mean, if you create a queue with that "hierarchical" JNDI name and don't deploy any applications which use this queue, you still see the failure? Can you post the entire exception stacktrace in such a scenario? I guess it should not be a NameNotFoundException. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4238679#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...