"pnorman4" wrote : The result is that facesContext is injected 4 times - twice for each #{testBean.testValue}. Adding another #{testBean.testValue} will force two more injections! | | The #{testValue} on the other hand does not enforce any injections. Each time that you call a method on your Seam component, Seam will biject as required. When the method is complete Seam disinjects the any injections. So, each time you call #{testBean.testValue}, you get an injection. As for why each #{testBean.testValue} causes two injections, that's probably down to JSF/Facelets evaluating the binding twice. By the time you access #{testValue} on your page it has been outjected by testBean and so exists as a contextual variable and hence doesn't access the bean at all. anonymous wrote : | Now I wonder: | * Is this behavior a bug? Why do you wonder that? anonymous wrote : * Do I get this behaviour because I'm using JavaBeans instead of EJB3 SessionBeans? No. anonymous wrote : Also: | * To get the @Out outjection to work, I must first access the bean (with #{testBean.testValue} for instance). Is there another way to "wake up" the bean so that @Out works? Look at using @Factory or @Create (there are examples of both in examples directory. In general we (Gavin) have done a very good job of making Seam fast - there are discussions about this on the forum, take a look through. The normal candidate for slowness is in your use of the ORM. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4040391#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...