Bernd Ruecker [http://community.jboss.org/people/camunda] created the discussion "Re: JBPM 3, 4 or 5?" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/576083#576083 -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Sylvain. It depends a bit on your environment and how risky a technology choice is allowed to be ;-) jBPM 3 is for sure the safe bet, it is really stable, mature and officially supported by JBoss. But it will not be developed any further and it has a propriatary process language in contrast to Standard BPMN 2.0 which normally is preferred these days. jBPM 4 should be avoided for sure, since it is abandonned as community project and still not really finished, not supported, ... jBPM 5 is not yet ready and not yet that stable, so there is a risk that you may run into bugs or trouble. Support should be there, but only in some months (or years?) in future. One interessting choice could be www.activiti.org or www.bonitasoft.org as well, both have an engine architecture similiar to jBPM 4. Activiti uses BPMN 2.0 as well. If you try to be engine independant as much as possible to make it easier to possibly exchange the engine later you could go for an abstraction layer, we have built one which is in use for different customers (currently with jBPM 3), see http://www.bpm-guide.de/2010/04/17/abstracting-the-process-engine/ http://www.bpm-guide.de/2010/04/17/abstracting-the-process-engine/ for some information on that. Hope that helps Cheers Bernd -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/576083#576083] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

sylvain.machen [http://community.jboss.org/people/sylvain.machen] created the discussion "Re: JBPM 3, 4 or 5?" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/576159#576159 -------------------------------------------------------------- Did you find any problem of performance with JBPM 3? It will cost a lot for us to move "eventually" to JBPM 5... I'd like to know the problems you encountered with JBPM 3 ... -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/576159#576159] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Kris Verlaenen [http://community.jboss.org/people/KrisVerlaenen] created the discussion "Re: JBPM 3, 4 or 5?" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/576180#576180 -------------------------------------------------------------- jBPM3 is stable and currently is supported (and will be supported for quite a few more years). For new projects, I would recommend trying to migrate to jBPM5.  I've just put out jBPM-5.0-CR1 and we should have a final release in a few weeks time, so I don't think you should be afraid of jBPM5 not being finished yet.  It will be productized in 2011. Regarding migration, we're working on a project that would allow you to transform your existing jPDL processes into BPMN2 processes so they can be migrated to the jBPM5 engine.  More info here: http://community.jboss.org/docs/DOC-15974 http://community.jboss.org/wiki/jBPM5migrationtoolproject -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/576180#576180] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Mauricio Salatino [http://community.jboss.org/people/salaboy21] created the discussion "Re: JBPM 3, 4 or 5?" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/576237#576237 -------------------------------------------------------------- I think that the support will be for a long period of time. Bernd mention that it's not available yet.. but it will be during 2011.. we are almost there :) -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/576237#576237] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]

Kris Verlaenen [http://community.jboss.org/people/KrisVerlaenen] created the discussion "Re: JBPM 3, 4 or 5?" To view the discussion, visit: http://community.jboss.org/message/576239#576239 -------------------------------------------------------------- Bernd was refering to the fact that jBPM5 is currently not yet supported, meaning that you can't buy a support subscription just yet (if you need a support subscription NOW, you can get support for jBPM3 however).  This is however the normal way of project evolution, we are now really close to offering jBPM 5.0 in the community, and productization will start after that (which includes additional QA, integration, configuration, documentation etc.), after which it will be offered as (part of) a product by JBoss / Red Hat. Anyway, jBPM5 is (almost) ready and stable, and will be supported by Red Hat in the future (for many years).  Migrating to jBPM5 will put you on a version that is actively being developed, improved and fixed if necessary, so migrating now should only give you advantages long term. Kris -------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to this message by going to Community [http://community.jboss.org/message/576239#576239] Start a new discussion in jBPM at Community [http://community.jboss.org/choose-container!input.jspa?contentType=1&...]