anonymous wrote : the serialized page state is not available when Ajax4JSF goes through the JSF lifecycle to process the validations I'm sure that's not correct. Ajax4JSF does resubmit the serialized state back to the server. anonymous wrote : i wanted the data model to refresh on each request. Then what you need to do is re-render the whole f:view. If you don't re-render the ViewRoot, then the PAGE scope attributes won't be updated on the client side. If you use reRender="theViewRootId", everything should work fine. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4050337#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...