Hi, This is connected to JBSEAM-827. I have an IceFaces Menu bar which has menu items to the child level. When I invoke Seam e-mail functionality from this page, I get the following exception. java.lang.NullPointerException: at com.icesoft.faces.component.menubar.MenuItemRenderer.renderChildrenRecursive(MenuItemRenderer.java:382) at com.icesoft.faces.component.menubar.MenuItemRenderer.encodeBegin(MenuItemRenderer.java:185) at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.encodeBegin(UIComponentBase.java:512) at com.icesoft.faces.renderkit.dom_html_basic.DomBasicRenderer.encodeParentAndChildren(DomBasicRenderer.java:339) at com.icesoft.faces.component.menubar.MenuBarRenderer.encodeChildren(MenuBarRenderer.java:94) at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.encodeChildren(UIComponentBase.java:524) at com.icesoft.faces.renderkit.dom_html_basic.DomBasicRenderer.encodeParentAndChildren(DomBasicRenderer.java:341) at com.icesoft.faces.renderkit.dom_html_basic.GroupRenderer.encodeChildren(GroupRenderer.java:97) at javax.faces.component.UIComponentBase.encodeChildren(UIComponentBase.java:524) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:174) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChild(JSF.java:177) at org.jboss.seam.ui.JSF.renderChildren(JSF.java:162) at org.jboss.seam.ui.facelet.FaceletsRenderer.renderFacelet(FaceletsRenderer.java:106) at org.jboss.seam.ui.facelet.FaceletsRenderer.render(FaceletsRenderer.java:54) at org.jboss.seam.ui.facelet.FaceletsRenderer.render(FaceletsRenderer.java:38) 15:02:29,863 INFO [STDOUT] Exception is: 15:02:29,894 ERROR [D2DFaceletViewHandler] Problem in renderResponse: HIERARCHY_REQUEST_ERR: An attempt was made to insert a node where it is not permitted. org.w3c.dom.DOMException: HIERARCHY_REQUEST_ERR: An attempt was made to insert a node where it is not permitted. at org.apache.xerces.dom.CoreDocumentImpl.insertBefore(Unknown Source) at org.apache.xerces.dom.NodeImpl.appendChild(Unknown Source) at com.icesoft.faces.context.DOMResponseWriter.startElement(DOMResponseWriter.java:195) at com.sun.facelets.compiler.StartElementInstruction.write(StartElementInstruction.java:39) at com.sun.facelets.compiler.UIInstructions.encodeBegin(UIInstructions.java:39) at com.icesoft.faces.application.D2DViewHandler.renderResponse(D2DViewHandler.java:579) at com.icesoft.faces.application.D2DViewHandler.renderResponse(D2DViewHandler.java:586) at com.icesoft.faces.facelets.D2DFaceletViewHandler.renderResponse(D2DFaceletViewHandler.java:276) at com.icesoft.faces.application.D2DViewHandler.renderView(D2DViewHandler.java:149) at org.apache.myfaces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.render(LifecycleImpl.java:384) at com.icesoft.faces.webapp.xmlhttp.BlockingServlet.renderCycle(BlockingServlet.java:457) at com.icesoft.faces.webapp.xmlhttp.BlockingServlet.receiveUpdates(BlockingServlet.java:444) at com.icesoft.faces.webapp.xmlhttp.BlockingServlet.executeRequest(BlockingServlet.java:324) at com.icesoft.faces.webapp.xmlhttp.BlockingServlet.service(BlockingServlet.java:186) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:810) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:252) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173) at org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamExceptionFilter.doFilter(SeamExceptionFilter.java:43) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:202) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173) at org.jboss.web.tomcat.filters.ReplyHeaderFilter.doFilter(ReplyHeaderFilter.java:96) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:202) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:173) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:213) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:178) at org.jboss.web.tomcat.security.SecurityAssociationValve.invoke(SecurityAssociationValve.java:175) at org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:432) at org.jboss.web.tomcat.security.JaccContextValve.invoke(JaccContextValve.java:74) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:126) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105) at org.jboss.web.tomcat.tc5.jca.CachedConnectionValve.invoke(CachedConnectionValve.java:156) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:107) Is this related to the issue JBSEAM-827. If so what is the best solution to this. I need to use both iceFaces and Seam mail. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4024449#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...