I installed Icefaces into my app and got it working, however in turn, it broke the EL. On my index.xhtml I have a login/logout, the logout will be shown on the evaluation of #{loggedIn} Which worked pre ICEfaces, when I installed ICEFaces the actual icefaces component worked, but part of my EL stopped working, the part that evaluates variables that don't exist. When I first open the index.seam in the browser the page has #{loggedIn} however, the variable loggedIn is not created until a user actually logs in. Pre ICEfaces, everything worked great, since I am assuming that loggedIn resolved to null, which I assume equates with false. In the server.log I tracked down the problem to: could not resolve variable loggedIn But no more exceptions or anything, that was all I saw in the debug. Has anyone else had this problem or a solution? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3990775#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...