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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: jBPM4 History/Log implementation.

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

certainly it is our ambition to realize these capabilities in 4.1 or 4.2. the most difficult part will be to manage DB schema and data migration as we build out those features. How we'll tacke that will still have to be figured out in the next 2 months. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242331#4242331 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242331

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - jBPM4 History/Log implementation.

by shekharv

yet another post related to jbpm4 history. :P This one is related to the overall roadmap/approach towards logging historical information. Auditing and History information is one of the more critical pieces of data that needs to be persisted as part of the workflow processes. So I was wondering what the plan was towards supporting some of that stuff, eg: 1.) A task is re-assigned from 'PersonA' to 'PersonB' by 'PersonC' on 'Date1'. 2.) The DueDate of a Task is changed from 'date1' to 'date2'. 3.) Priority of a Task is changed from 'NORMAL' to HIGH. Now in v3, some of these could be tracked using things like the TaskAssignLog. There is no way to do that in jbpm4, as yet. The current approach tracks and store historical activities/tasks, but does not store any changes that might have been made to the actual task/activity except for the fact that it is completed. Changes to the activities themselves are not recorded. IS there any plan/thought as to how that will be done? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242314#4242314 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242314

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: Completion of Tasks results in deletion of Comments ente

by shekharv

Hey Tom, That is cool! I was just going through the changes you made a while ago, Thanks for the lightning fast response! :) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242296#4242296 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242296

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: Is it possible to avoid hibernate?

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

that is a target. but we'll be only able to bring this to the surface in the mid term if you're able to compile the code, then look at the test-pojo module. but that usage is not yet stable. getting the programmatic, non-persistent api stable is going to take more time. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242293#4242293 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242293

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: Completion of Tasks results in deletion of Comments ente

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

initially i overlooked tasks and comments with respect to runtime/history split. that today, i added a history task today and moved the comments to the history data. this is in line with the new split up: history data remains and runtime data only contains the current runtime state. that way the history tasks and the comments will be available after the tasks themselves are completed. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242292#4242292 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242292

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: Completion of Tasks results in deletion of Comments ente

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

the api already switched to string ids. for tasks, there is no good candidate for generating a meaningfull composite key that still is guaranteed unique. the dbid (= PK) would have to be part of it anyway View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242291#4242291 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242291

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Is it possible to avoid hibernate?

by jorgemoralespou_2

Hi, I want to use jBPM, or even, extend PVM with my customizations to make a simple service orchestration language. All of it, needs to run in memory, with no persistence at all. First of all, I`m trying to create a Repository to deploy my Deployments, but I see hibernate is needed for PVM. Can I avoid it using a custom DeploymentImpl and RepositorySessionImpl? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242285#4242285 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242285

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: Completion of Tasks results in deletion of Comments ente

by shekharv

To keep things consistent, I think it would be a good idea to see if we can add a String based id to task/activity too. So just as we have processinstance ids as SimpleProcess.1, would it not make sense to have something similar for Tasks? thoughts? P.S: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2124 View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242280#4242280 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242280

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: Completion of Tasks results in deletion of Comments ente

by rams.rapo

I agree, we need some reference to the original id so that it can be linked back to the client application. This is a very key feature in a couple of jbpm v3 implementations that we currently have at our end. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242273#4242273 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242273

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: Completion of Tasks results in deletion of Comments ente

by camunda

Quick comment: Keeping the original ID in the history table make sense to me. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4242222#4242222 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4242222

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