Hi Kris,
if there is a reason you would not like to discuss this openly, please
let me know and I respond directly.
cheers
-thomas
Thomas Diesler wrote:
Hi Kris,
thanks for this feedback. Could you please put this on the dev forum,
I'll be glad to answer there.
cheers
-thomas
Kris Verlaenen wrote:
> Thomas,
>
> I don't know if you know me but I'm a member of the JBoss Drools team
> and leading the ruleflow efforts and the integration between processes
> and rules. Our vision is to create a unified platform where rules and
> processes are simply different ways of expressing (some of your)
> business logic and can be seamlessly integrated. This would allow
> users to select the most appropriate paradigm for their problem and
> integrate rules and processes without requiring them to learn and
> integrate different products themselves. This is partially based on
> the observation that both rules and processes have a very similar life
> cycle: creation in a custom editor, storing your business logic in a
> repository, deployment to a runtime environment, monitoring and
> management of the execution, etc. We believe that is should be
> possible to offer an unified environment where this life cycle is
> supported as much as possible and both rules and processes are
> considered different types of business logic.
>
> Mark told me that you are creating a BPM API that can be used for both
> jBPM 3 and 4. It would be interesting to see whether ruleflow can
> also fit in here (and maybe in the long term whether we can offer a
> similar API for both rules and processes). I'm already working with
> Koen Aers on creating a shared core process definition model for both
> jBPM and Drools Flow, so there might be some overlap. I attached a
> screenshot of our progress so far (the core concepts). Is there any
> information available about the API that I could take a look at. I'd
> also be glad to provide you with more information about our approach
> or links to our API as well.
>
> I hope we'll be able to share some of the efforts of both teams. As I
> said already, I'm working with Koen on integrating and extending the
> eclipse-based process designer. But I'm also thinking about our
> repository (Guvnor) for storing business logic, or the BAM/SAM
> efforts. I would be interested in knowing what you guys are up to in
> the future to see whether there are some opportunities for
> collaboration. I've also been told that you are going to provide
> WS-HumanTask integration for handling human tasks. I have implemented
> a proof of concept implementation for Drools Flow that uses the WS-HT
> service from ActiveEndpoints to execute human tasks in Drools Flow. I
> also have some experience with Eclipse-BIRT for creating basic
> monitoring reports for our execution engine. So if I can be of any
> assistance, let me know.
>
> Kris
>
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