[jbpm-dev] Feedback for jBPM5 proposal

Hello everybody, as requested by Kris I am reposting my feedback on the mailing list: 1.) Will jBPM 5.0 be based upon jBPM 4.x? You mention the PVM and the native BPMN 2.0-implementation. So I assume it will be. Am I right? 2.) What's the reason for replacing the task management with WS-Human Task? The task life cycle model? Will this be implemented as a webservice as most of the other vendors do or will you supply a java implementation using the same model? You are stating that the engine will continue to be embeddable so I hope this will be a java implementation of the task life cycle model. 3.) Will JBoss ESB be an optional component? I am thinking of embeddability again. Why use an ESB when you don't need one? One of the strengths of jBPM IMHO is the small footprint. 4.) IMHO it's absolutely crucial to fix some really basic issues concerning jBPM 4.3 and release 4.4. This is important to not lose the community. There's also a great insecurity about jBPM 4.x. To be more precise: whether or not you should start a project wiht jBPM 4.3 right now. Wide usage by the community is the best test you can get for a software product. In general the overall looks nice but there should be priority on the core engine since all the other components can still be added later on with no problem. P.S.: For those who don't know what I am talking about: https://community.jboss.org/wiki/jBPM5RequestforComments Cheers and have a nice weekend Sebastian -- Sebastian Schneider e-mail: Sebastian.Schneider(a)alumni.fh-aachen.de