Hi Trevor, https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2043 the system performance tests in the SOA platform do not seem to be isolated enough to be usable by the project - at least not as they are. Performance tests that work at a larger integration level are actually a good thing to have and I am glad that they exist and show results. Now the question arises who owns and maintains those tests? IMHO, the project should actually not be the owner (we currently don't have SVN access anyway). As I understand it, SOA QA engineering owns these tests, which is how it should be. The jBPM project also needs to do some performance testing for every release. This test coverage is currently missing AFAIK and is subject of JBPM-2043. To resolve the current issue quickly, I propose to work close with the owner of those SOA performance tests to create equivalent tests in the jBPM tests suite such that we can reproduce what you are seeing. These jBPM performance tests need to be isolated from the ESB context. cheers -thomas -- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Thomas Diesler BPM Product Lead JBoss, a division of Red Hat xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx