On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ed Burns <edward.burns(a)oracle.com <mailto:edward.burns@oracle.com>> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:51:53 +0100, Werner Punz <werner.punz(a)gmail.com <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com>> said: WP> Btw. my personal opinion regarding all this is that this should be WP> solved in a special spec which frameworks can attach to. After all WP> the entire configuration change aspect is not only JSF specific but WP> goes way depper into every framework. WP> But I guess someone has to do the first step before an umbrella jsr WP> spanning all JEE frameworks is opened :-) Yes, that's certainly true. In fact, there's a time honored tradition of JSF being an important place where innovation enters the platform. This is a very thorough proposal, Werner. Thanks for preparing it. I'd like to see this API done in terms of existing APIS, such as the java.lang.management MBeans [1]. Is it possible we can use JMX rather than introducing a new API? Ed [1] http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/management/overview.html#mbeans I assume so, I just had a quick look at it, it sounds very sane to use it, since it is part of the JDK since 5 so we are save to be able to run it in any context. Secondly it deals with configuration singletons anyway, and http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/javax/management/Descriptor.html seems to be able to handle get,insert,delete,update usecases. But I am by far no expert in that part of the java API (I always skipped it for not having ever used it in my life, I just knew it existed) So can anyone with more insight can elaborate if we can reuse it? Werner -- | edward.burns(a)oracle.com <mailto:edward.burns@oracle.com> | office: 408 884 9519 OR x31640 | homepage: | http://ridingthecrest.com/