Re: [aerogear-dev] UPS as WildFly Subsystem (was: UPS using JMS)

I reached out to Stian in order to fully understand the "Why" behind Keycloak offering a subsystem, and he identified two benefits: * smaller appliance downloads * easier to patch modules than monolithic WAR Can you see anything else? The question is how much relevant are these benefits for us, since we depend much more on Java EE (especially with JMS coming).

In case of UPS, we can definitely strip some download Megabytes for (potential) appliance distribution (good for microservices oriented architectures), while still providing installation of subsystem to existing Wildfly EE instances. We can continue shipping WAR just for sake of backwards compatibility in case it will appear to be effortless.

However I agree that UPS as WF subsystem is a direction worth to explore! ~ Lukas út 7. 4. 2015 v 9:18 odesílatel Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; napsal: > Not sure, I think that was my question though > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Lukáš Fryč <lukas.fryc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >> Do I read well that the subsystem would be the ONLY distribution >> mechanism? >> >> Created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1354 btw. Feel free to >> comment there. >> >> ~ Lukas >> >> pá 3. 4. 2015 v 13:50 odesílatel Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >> napsal: >> >> Cool stuff >>> >>> I am totally fine having this tied ti wf/eap >>> >>> wondering: at some point, should we offer a dist as (only) subststem >>> for wf/eap? >>> >>> >>> On Friday, April 3, 2015, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> That all sounds very good :) >>>> Thanks for the headupate, I will soon give it a try. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Lukáš Fryč <lukas.fryc(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys, >>>>> >>>>> so as outlined in previous thread [1], I have prototyped a JMS >>>>> batching approach for push message delivery. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We've discussed the approach with Matthias, Mirek Novak and Ondrej >>>>> Chaloupka (EAP QE & JMS/JTA experts, thank you guys!) and these documents >>>>> describes a concept that we have came with: >>>>> >>>>> Diagram: >>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/fryc.eu/drawings/d/13IsJWPSJNYXtst-UVxQYmzH36C_... >>>>> >>>>> Text Doc: >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X65P_U9O62Z5JZhKi9ZvBuZU1OrL4pNHNddlz... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Implementation-wise, I've so far prototyped the messaging part (split >>>>> SenderService functionality to two subsequent queues with MDBs as shown on >>>>> diagram), >>>>> >>>>> but that's just a start, since we must configure it appropriately for >>>>> efficiency (queue configuration and batch sizes) and verify that >>>>> configuration works as expected, >>>>> >>>>> the prototype lives on a branch (unpolished, to be squashed later): >>>>> https://github.com/lfryc/aerogear-unifiedpush-server/tree/jms-batching >>>>> >>>>> Off course, you can play with it already. :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Apart from the new requirement of using Java EE full profile (JMS), >>>>> the prototype leverages implementation-specific configurations and APIs: >>>>> >>>>> - org.hibernate.Query for token streaming / batch fetching >>>>> - HornetQ configurations of queue size, blocking behavior and >>>>> message de-duplication >>>>> >>>>> That pretty much binds us to WildFly/EAP - we can tweak it to run on >>>>> any compliant app server, but without specific configurations it won't work >>>>> properly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Once configured and functionally tested (that can even wait for Beta2 >>>>> I guess), >>>>> >>>>> we can cooperate with Mobile QE on testing (Stefan, Adam), their test >>>>> suite contains mocks of APNS/GCM against which we can load test. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> ~ Lukas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> http://aerogear-dev.1069024.n5.nabble.com/aerogear-dev-UnifiedPush-new-re... >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev