I've collected some feedback for the Aerogear beta project site that I
would like to share. Before I get to it, though, I want to say great job
overall with the site! It gives the impression of a strong, focus and
active project. The fact that it has a responsive design all gives the
project credibility in its field ;)
I'll start with my feedback:
I'm not sure about the tagline: JBoss Focused Resources for Mobile and HTML5
This is how the confusion around the JBoss name gets reinforced. What is
> "JBoss" in this context? This logline seems to paint the project into a
> corner with a term that is both overly-vague and overly-specific, depending
> on how you define the term.
I'm not sure what the right answer is, but here are some suggestions:
- Middleware-focused resources for Mobile and HTML5
> - A backend solution for your mobile and HTML5 apps
> - Uniting the power of the server with the flexibility of mobile and HTML5
(you'll see later that Joe has much better ideas than mine).
Here is feedback from Jason Brooks, long time editor in chief of eWeeks
Labs, now working for the (shadow) man in the open source and standards
Like Dan, the tagline is what stood out most for me. I felt like I had to
> spend a moment processing what that meant. Gives the impression that this
> is principally about JBoss, rather than about solving some problem. With
> that said, there are a lot of indications on the page of what this is
> about, and I like the various links to the code.
> The page is pretty packed with content, but all together it gives me the
> info I was looking for.
Here is feedback from Joe Ottinger, former editor in chief of JDJ and
theserverside.com, also a member of the open source and standards team:
My main thought is that "gear to get you mobile on jboss" is a better
> tagline - and it's de-emphasized on the page.
> The JBoss Focused Resources for Mobile... shouldn't that be:
> A) JBoss-Focused... (note hyphen)
> B) Better?
> At any rate, the color there doesn't really attract the eye enough to
> matter a lot - it looks like a throwaway tag, and so it is.
> The biggest problem is that the "gear to get you mobile on jboss" is the
> best tagline, and it's not emphasized enough, and it could be better, too.
> The problem is that "gear" is catchy and "developer tools" is not.
Seems to me like the simplest revision might be to follow Joe's advice and
swap in "Gear to get you mobile on JBoss" as the main tagline and change
the color so that it pops.
The tougher question is whether saying "JBoss" gives enough context to
understand what Aerogear is providing. If the diagram is accurate, perhaps
you should just say JBoss AS (implying that things that work with JBoss AS
will work as well). You could also consider putting an FAQ somewhere beyond
the front page that explains what exactly "JBoss" entails.
Again, great work on the site!
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I just wanted to ask if there is anything stopping us from using Java 1.7
instead of 1.6 in aerogear-controller?
There are a few things that might be nice to use, the main one I was
thinking about was using method handles instead of reflection.
Thanks again Dan. Responses inline.
From: mojavelinux [dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com]
Received: Thursday, 27 Sep 2012, 6:32pm
Subject: Re: [aerogear-dev] beta project site feedback
Kris Borchers wrote
> Dan and others,
> Thank you to all of you for your feedback. We were also unsure about the
> tagline and just the other day decided to change it to "Open-Source
> Libraries for Mobile Connectivity". I would be interested to hear any
> feedback you might have on that wording as well.
Kris and Matthias,
I noticed the new tagline as soon as I came back to the site to check on the
I agree, that's a much better tagline. In our minds, we often want to
include all the details to be as accurate as possible. However, to someone
looking for a software library, they have a much higher-level need in mind.
Thus, having a tagline like "open source libraries for mobile connectivity"
keeps it simple enough to be sticky while still capturing the library's
At first I was going to suggest reintroducing HTML5 in the tagline, but then
I realized that allowing that to be implied works much better. While HTML5
is certainly relevant on the desktop, it really impacts the mobile
experience and hence it's reasonable to assume that if you say "mobile",
then HTML5 must be nearby.
Also, we are creating libs for native iOS and Android (and eventually BB and WP possibly) so mentioning HTML5 would leave them out.
Just one small thing, I would recommend dropping the hyphen in "open
source". I'm pretty certain it's right either way, so dropping it here just
makes it cleaner.
I am ok with that so if there are no objections I'll remove the hyphen.
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just to let you know I pushed to my fork  an initial version of TODO IOS app.
Basically the home "Tasks" screen is up (only refresh currently works) and do a project clean up and setup.
expect more soon.. ;)
using the Auth-Token to get access to protected resources / endpoints
(after doing a login) works fine!
I am wondering how to avoid that one token is used on different
devices? (e.g. when somebody is 'stealing' the token).
I did sign-in to the app, using the browser and got the following
token => db5d16da-a1e5-48d9-a2fd-e39e36e835bc
Now I was able to issue a get request against the endpoints, by using
the same token, from different 'devices':
- iOS test case
NOTE: we don't need a solution now, since I know you guys are busy
with some demo work - but just want to run that 'issue' by this list
James has been working on some updates to the aerogear image. I wanted to get you thoughts. We really like the right side connectors (websockets, and HTTP), but we're not sure about the left connector.
I like it the way it is, but wanted to get some additional thoughts from you all?
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