Re: [aerogear-dev] AeroGear.js without jQuery Discussion

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > >> >> On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:10 AM, tolis emmanouilidis <tolisemm(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >> 2014-03-24 15:39 GMT+02:00 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt;: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: >>> >>>> I agree that it would be nice to implement AGJS-70<https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGJS-70> (Investigate >>>> removing jQuery requirement). Meanwhile, there is an open source project on >>>> GitHub that claims to offer a custom builder for jQuery in order to include >>>> only the modules needed [1] [2]. I haven't tried it yet but maybe we could >>>> create a custom jQuery build which includes only the parts currently needed >>>> in AeroGear. This would mean a smaller size of the jQuery dependency. >>>> >>>> >>>> The AG lib depends on a few parts of jQuery, the biggest being >>>> jQuery.Ajax and the promise implementation. >>>> >>>> i know we can make custom builds of jQuery pretty easily( building >>>> from source ), but i don't really want to bundle it within our lib. >>>> >>>> and i don't think with bower we can do this easily. although they did >>>> just add a post install hook, so perhaps that could be something to look at. >>>> >>>> Datamanager only uses the promise implementation of jQuery( and some >>>> random thing for the filter method, which could probably be updated ). >>>> >>> >> >> >>> Promises are starting to become available natively in browsers and >>>> jQuery doesn't use the Promise/A+ spec, so it could be harder to fallback >>>> without a shim of some kind >>>> >>> >> Good to know. Thanks for providing this info. >> >> >>> >>> sounds reasonable to 'wait' on the promise side of things, and use that >>> bit in the datamanager >>> >> >> +1 >> >> >> there are other promise implementations that we could use, that are to >> spec, such as Q and RSVP, here is the link to the HTML5 rocks article >> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/es6/promises/ >> > > These last days I have been playing with the library When provided by > Cujo, it's maybe also worth looking https://github.com/cujojs/when > not sure I see value in using a different library as a temporary thing. Once the API is part of the browser platform, the need for [yet another js lib] goes away.

> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while i don't really want to reinvent the wheel in terms of Ajax, it >>>> might be interesting to take a look. >>>> >>> >>> Yeah, IMO worth to look there, for reducing dependencies >>> >>> -M >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>>> I think in a previous ML thread about what 2.0 looked like, that >>>> Pipeline would maybe just be a JSON only thing, with exception for multipart >>>> >>>> >>>> >> @Lucas Thanks for making things clear >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev