On Oct 23, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Dan Berindei <dan.berindei(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Galder Zamarreño
<galder(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Oct 22, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Dan Berindei <dan.berindei(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Galder Zamarreño <galder(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Dan Berindei <dan.berindei(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Galder, what JDK are you using?
>
> java version "1.6.0_35"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_35-b10-428-11M3811)
> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.10-b01-428, mixed mode)
>
> > OpenJDK 1.7 uses EmptyIterator.EMPTY_ITERATOR since 2007:
> >
> >
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/jdk/annotate/37a05a11f281/src/share/...
>
> Good that the figured out this is non-sense.
>
> > I don't have JDK 1.6 sources on hand to check, but I don't think
it's worth optimizing for such an old version anyway.
>
> Why not? We support JDK 1.6, so nothing stops them from running it.
>
> Until we baseline on JDK7 (or 8), I'd leave it in.
>
>
> My point was that it is a really big change, and further it imposes a burden on
anyone writing code with collections in Infinispan. I'm sure we will spend non-trivial
amounts of time during reviews pointing out places there the author should have used
InfinispanCollections instead of Collections…
It's part of your job as pull request handler to check for these things, and many
other bad practices that can be carried out… I don't see why is this different to
other.
What's missing here is a check list of things we should be checking for when we
handle pull requests.
I volunteer to do one once I got 2LC out of the way.
> I would be willing to go for it if a benchmark showed a significant increase in
performance after the change, but you didn't mention any benchmarks, so I guessed that
you didn't see a big difference…
It's doesn't affect performance directly, but indirectly.
It's about memory consumption. If you use less memory to do the same work, less
burden on GC, and less time spent doing GC.
How much memory does Infinispan allocate for each put/get and how much of that is used by
these iterators? Since we already use null instead of empty collections in lots of places,
I bet it's not even 0.01%.
The coding change is based on information gathered via
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-2414 - feel free to browse through it and I can
upload the snapshot if needed.
So yeah, these iterators do have an impact, but that impact is
negligible, whereas the impact on the developers and reviewers to implement this change is
not going to be negligible.
Impact on developers/reviewers? Aren't you exagerating a bit? :)
Of course, I might be wrong and this patch might improve throughput
for local caches by 1%, but based on what I know so far that's not the case.
>
>
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Vladimir Blagojevic
<vblagoje(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > Cool! Did not know about this! Is this original idea or others are
> > already doing this?
> > On 12-10-19 8:31 AM, Galder Zamarreño wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Re:
https://github.com/galderz/infinispan/commit/0609207d13216de81d77ff51dc20...
> > >
> > > Please avoid using these JDK methods where possible. I've created
alternative versions in InfinispanCollections util class that provide a better
implementation.
> > >
> > > The problem with the JDK versions is that even if these collections are
immutable, if you wanna iterate them (i.e. for(X : emptySet) ), they'll create a brand
new Iterator every time they're looped, and that generates useless garbage.
> > >
> > > The InfinispanCollections versions of emptyX will return a constant
singleton iterator which avoids this problem, and avoids the need for client code to check
if the collection is empty before looping.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > --
> > > Galder Zamarreño
> > > galder(a)redhat.com
> > >
twitter.com/galderz
> > >
> > > Project Lead, Escalante
> > >
http://escalante.io
> > >
> > > Engineer, Infinispan
> > >
http://infinispan.org
> > >
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