On 05/08/2017 09:58 AM, Galder ZamarreƱo wrote:
Hey Katia,
Sorry for delay replying back! I'm surprised there has not been more feedback. My
position on this is well known around the team, so let me summarise it:
My feeling has always been that we have too many commands and we should reduce number of
commands. Part of the functional map experiment was to show with a subset of commands, all
sorts of front end operations could be exposed. So, I'm on Radim's side on this.
By passing functions/lambdas, we get a lot of flexibility with very little cost. IOW, we
can add more operations by just passing in different lambdas to existing commands.
However, it is true that having different front API methods that only differ in the
lambda makes it initially hard to potentially do different things for each, but
couldn't that be solved with some kind of enum?
Although enums are useful, they're a bit limited, e.g. don't take params, so
since you've done Scala before, maybe this could be solved with some Scala-like sealed
trait for each front end operation type? I used something like a sealed trait for
implementing a more flexible flag system for functional map API called
org.infinispan.commons.api.functional.Param
Do I understand correctly that you're suggesting to add a enum to
ReadWriteKeyValueCommand that will say "behave like eval
(current)/compute*/merge"? How is that different from just wrapping the
'user function' into adapting function (with registered externalizer ==
marshalling to just 1-2 bytes)?
Handling such enum in interceptors is not better that having additional
visitX method. And not handling that does not allow you to apply
optimizations which Katia has named as reason #1 to have the separate
commands.
The problem I have with adding more commands is the explosion that it
provokes in terms of code, with all the required visit* method impls all over the
place...etc.
I personally think that the lack of a more flexible command architecture is what has
stopped us from adding front-end operations more quickly (e.g. counters,
multi-maps...etc). IMO, working with generic commands that take lambdas is a way to strike
a balance between adding front-end operations quickly and not resulting in a huge
explosion of commands.
So your final verdict is -1 to separate commands?
R.
PS: besides DRY, I vote for the use of functional commands is that it
would encourage us to fix the rest of the parts that might not be
working properly - e.g. QueryInterceptor was not updated with the
functional stuff (but QI is broken in more ways [1])
[1]
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-7806
Cheers,
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Galder ZamarreƱo
Infinispan, Red Hat
> On 20 Apr 2017, at 16:06, Katia Aresti <karesti(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Well, nobody spoke, so I consider that everybody agrees that I can take a decision
like a big girl by myself ! :)
>
> I'm going to add 3 new commands, for merge, compute&computeIfPresent and
computeIfAbsent. So I won't use the actual existing commands for the implementation :
ReadWriteKeyCommand and ReadWriteKeyValueCommand even if I'm a DRY person and I love
reusing code, I'm a KISS person too.
>
> I tested the implementation using these functional commands and IMHO :
> - merge and compute methods worth their own commands, they are very useful and we
might want to adjust/optimize them individually
> - there are some technical issues related to the TypeConverterDelegatingAdvancedCache
that makes me modify these existing functional commands with some hacky code that, for me,
should be kept in commands like merge or compute with the correct documentation. They
don't belong to a generic command.
> - Functional API is experimental right now. It might be non experimental in the near
future, but we might decide to move to another thing. The 3 commands are already
"coded" in my branches (not everything reviewed yet but soon). If one day we
decide to change/simplify or we find a nice way to get rid of commands with a more generic
one, removing and simplifying should be less painful than adding commands for these
methods.
>
> That's all !
>
> Cheers
>
> Katia
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Katia Aresti <karesti(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you might know I'm working since my arrival, among other things, on ISPN-5728
Jira [1], where the idea is to override the default ConcurrentMap methods that are missing
in CacheImpl (merge, replaceAll, compute ... )
>
> I've created a pull-request [2] for compute, computeIfAbsent and computeIfPresent
methods, creating two new commands. By the way, I did the same thing for the merge method
in a branch that I haven't pull requested yet.
>
> There is an opposite view between Radim and Will concerning the implementation of
these methods. To make it short :
> In one side Will considers compute/merge best implementation should be as a new
Command (so what is already done)
> In the other side, Radim considers adding another command is not necessary as we
could simple implement these methods using ReadWriteKeyCommand
>
> The detailed discussion and arguments of both sides is on GitHub [2]
>
> Before moving forward and making any choice by myself, I would like to hear your
opinions. For the record, it doesn't bother me redoing everything if most people think
like Radim because working on commands has helped me to learn and understand more about
infinispan internals, so this hasn't been a waste of time for me.
>
> Katia
>
> [1]
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-5728
> [2]
https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/pull/5046
>
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