anonymous wrote : Should I have the @Startup on a component like this? Not especially, I'm just eliminating a difference b/w the two examples. anonymous wrote : That components.xml uses a core:hibernate-session-factory which uses a method for creation whereas mine is just a component. huh? the two things are equivalent. try changing it to a anonymous wrote : I have auto-create="true" on the referenceSessionFactory component whereas the h2 example does not. irrelevant anonymous wrote : I don't have auto-create="true" on the managed-hibernate-session, I use create="true" in the @In where it is used. also irrelevant View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4009928#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...