I agfree - it would be nice if someone could come out with a guestimate of when the final JBoss 5.0 is coming out -- even if its a ballpark date. It seems like there's a lot more active development with the Glassfish project (maybe I should be switching!). I see a "stay tuned" from this July: http://blogs.jboss.com/blog/slabourey/2007/07/11/JBoss_Enterprise_Applica... I also see a "Enter The JBoss Matrix" blog posting saying "will culminate with the release of JBoss 5 sometime in 2006": http://blogs.jboss.com/blog/bburke/2005/09/29/JBoss_Microcontainer_Embedd... Other than that I can't find anything -- not even a JBoss 5 Bata 3 release date (I looked at their Jira). View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4102328#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...