OK, I think that probably answers the question. I don't think the JMX remote adapter service is deployed in my particular server instance. How would this support such a deployment? I'm assuming if this needs the remote JMX adapter to be deployed, and its not, then it will never know that the server is started. Perhaps you should have a timeout such that after, say, 5 mins or whatever, you flip the state to "Started" and in your log you indicate "timeout before twiddle could determine the state; assuming server is up". Also, what if the remote adapter is deployed, but its secured such that you need a username/password to connect? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3964100#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...