Ok, I found out a little bit more. I looked at the docs for SeamExtendedManagedPersistencePhaseListener. It says "Deprecated. use TransactionalSeamPhaseListener". I took out the SeamExtendedManagedPersistencePhaseListener and replaced it with TransactionalSeamPhaseListener in my faces-config.xml, and I still get org.hibernate.LazyInitializationException: failed to lazily initialize a collection of role: foo.bar.ips, no session or session was closed | Any ideas? Does Seam-managed persistence context work with Facelets? LIEs have been the bane of ORM since Hibernate; surely they are solvable by now and I'm just making some dumb mistake? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3996355#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...