The reason I did not post any more is that you do have to do some work (investigation) yourself. Stripping the spring code from the example in the wiki is not that hard. please........ I am more and more inclined to ask the jboss people for an additional forum where I can move posts like this so the real forum stays clean with helpful posts View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4026552#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...