Hi Michael. I don´t know about your problem with the dvd store but i would like to give you a tip. The Lazy loading works only with managed entities. That means that you have to get the entity with the entity manager and use it. If you have a reference that is persisted but is not attached to a entity manager you have to merge it. For example. If you have a Many to many relationship between an entity named Person and a entity named Project. @Entity @Name("person") public class Person implements Serializable { //id and code //... @ManyToMany private List<Project> projects; //getters and setters } And have an action method that use a person object public void doSopmething(){ //this.person is a valid reference to a person object in the session for example // you have to merge it so the entity manager can lazy load the projects. Person newReferenceToPerson = entityManager.merge(this.person); //now, use the new object that is sincronized with the database. // You could rereferenciate the person too. List<Project> projects = newReferenceToPerson.getProjects(); //It lazy loads all projects asociated to this person. } I hope this helps. On 9/13/07, ASavitsky <do-not-reply(a)jboss.com&gt; wrote: