OK Sorry ive read the tutorial once again (thats probably the 20th time ai read it) and now i catch everything - forgot that the @scope defines default scope. One last thing. Suppose i have a form wich is quite complex. Form is bound to two entities. A and B. Before i persist the A and B beans id like to manipulate their values - can i do that using getters and setters like in normal POJO ? Also after persisting A and B i want to create object C ( from C entity bean) manipulate its values and persist it - so i need new C object - can i Instantinate it like normal POJO ? (e.g C cObj = new C();) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4076334#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...