Yes but this still doesnt help me figure out whats wrong with your server startup ;) I had added all sorts of event logging so that when another server startup / shutdown problem came, you'd have all sorts of information to give me =P Now my silly boolean error has prevented me from actually researching the startup / shutdown issue. Mind if I ask you some other question? You've said you're using jboss3.2.7 but you've named it 4.x TRUNK. Which jboss version are you actually trying to use? =P View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3959221#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...