I keep having to put all the getters and setters into my beans and not use @Out as I need the bean to have its @Create run (which populates the variables I am Outjecting)... Basically: Outjecting variables means that you don't have the @Create run. for the bean that holds them Anyone any idea how to get round this? e.g. | ... | @SuppressWarnings("serial") | @Stateful | @Name("resourceAllocationController") | @Scope(ScopeType.SESSION) | public class ResourceAllocationControllerImpl implements ResourceAllocationController, Serializable { | ... | | @Out | private List<Day> varX; | | ... | | @TransactionAttribute(TransactionAttributeType.NOT_SUPPORTED) | @Create | public void init() { | //set varX up | } | doesn't work... as in the view varX is accessed but init() is never run. You have to add in getters and setters (lots of typing) and use a construct in the view like: | <rich:dataTable var="eachDayForIndoorArena" | value="#{resourceAllocationController.varX}" | rendered="#{not empty resourceAllocationController.varX}"> | instead of Outjecting and | <rich:dataTable var="eachDayForIndoorArena" | value="#{varX}" | rendered="#{not empty varX}"> | View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4127668#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...