I am working with the exact issue right now: that is, how do you implement users, roles, and permissions in jBPM without using the jBPM built in tables. Is that an adequate re-statement of your question? In our situation, we have to pull user, roles and permissions (U/R/P) from an existing corporate system. I know that I can change hibernate to NOT pull those tables, but this opens several questions: 1. If we use an external source for our U/R/P, can they still be used by JBPM to enforce swimlanes, etc. 2. Can we just point hibernate to external tables for U/R/P and still have it work? 3. Is the easiest way to do this use a third table to associate external and jBPM tables? Thanks in advance... View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4137819#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...