Okay, subtract me from the people using @LoggedIn -- it's simply evil, and it seems to interfere with bijection and @Create methods. Until I devote some time to reading up on Seam Security, I've literally hardcoded the login check into every method that would use it (which is actually not many places thankfully). @LoggedIn really needs to go from the examples. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4010268#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...