STFF can also be done by using google... works a lot better, but that is another item and I agree that searching the forum with the 'forum-search' is inadequate. but again, the doc is more that the html, the examples/testcases (yes, in the source) are really expressive. Could be that you fit in neither camp, but you (at least) did not come up with a question like the one this post started with. For more complex issues the docs are (atm) not sufficient, nor are the examples/testcases. Michael Putz however is doing a great job in adding wiki pages on more complex things so we are improving in that area as well. And I never said or even thought we were doing a great job on the docs, just that they are (just like bpm in general) not for just anyone to be used. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4044357#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...