"fperedo" wrote : Hi! | -First, transient POJOs: show me what can be done in | SEAM without JPA or Hibernate. (a really simple in memory POJOs example with 1 page first, and then 2 or three) ¿this part needs the microcontainer? No, though one does get included in the Seam-PDF example. You can safely drop most of MC/JPA/Hibernate stuff in such setup - though Seam does have some dependencies I couldn't get rid from: namely ejb3-persistence.jar (doh!) and hibernate-validator.jar (expressions, facesMessages and validators Seam components) "fperedo" wrote : -Second, persistent POJOs: evolve from the first tutorial and make some of its POJOs persistent (using just Hibernate, then show how to do it with JPA annotations) ¿this part needs the microcontainer? there are alternatives to using MC - see http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=104525 - though Pete is right, MC is the easiest to set up "fperedo" wrote : | -Third, full J2EE, add stuff like stateless & statefull POJOS that can only be done having a full J2EE5 stack (is there a difference between having a full J2EE5 stack and using the microcontainer?) Stateful, Stateless and message-driven EJBs (forget about @Stateful and @Stateless). Entity beans are in, though. Persistence Context injection via @PersistenceContext (use @In) You have to (or, rather, you better to) use Seam-managed transactions and Seam-managed persistence contexts if you're outside J2EE container HTH, Alex View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4043324#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...