There is no such thing as a CVS "load". If you mean "check out", well it really takes quite a while. Really: 1) Do read the docs. 2) At least when you are starting: Play by the books. Start by modifying an example. Do not change any descriptors. Do not mix-in alternative frameworks. If you started to get a grip of everything you can always expand your app in your own way. BTW: Is it so hard to insert single dots and question marks at the correct places - any maybe in general stop writing like an 8-year old in an IM session? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4043631#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...