"pete.muir(a)jboss.org" wrote : No. Seam allows you to design your app without patterns - you design as it suits you not, the framework. yes and that is a VERYYYY dangerous thing to. I think its great in the right hands, but for junior developers who are just starting Seam its "intereseting" what they come up with as solutions. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4124931#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...