okay - confused in ipswich here. tried to download the jboss tools from the nightly update site inside RHDS and it doesnt recognise the build - cant remenmber the exact error but does nothing. caved in and ran my europa build at the exact same update site it it found it and confirmed the download. eclipse restarts - so far so good. try and create a jboss v5 AS config - and run it and it fails in to batch file somewhere - will dig out the error and attach when i get back. so deleted that again and just left my trusty 4.2AS config. told it to create a seam project - which it does as an ordinary java project and some libaries - but no EAR v5 facet is added on the create wizard (which is what happend on the RHDS beta i had). the standard europa (no EAR v5 facet ) standard project says okay - havnt written a test app to try it but it compiles okay as empty stub. therefore the jboss tools download doesnt match whats been put into RHDS. My brian has given in and i'm off to bed - if anyone can elucidate the difference between the RHDS work stream and the jbosstools build i'd appreciate it so i know which way to jump - cheers wiggy View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4085272#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...