"david.lloyd(a)jboss.com" wrote : OK, then I think I'm confused - how does the controller state lifecycle relate to the service lifecycle? The service lifecycle seems to define four trasitions - create, start, stop, and destory. But the controller can be in 8 different states. We have more fine grained states than the usual lifecycles. ;-) And what you call stop and destroy are respectively start and create on the way 'back', at uninstall. What are usually the states where the services get instantiated and configured? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4131574#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...