hi.. i have an ear with isolated mode, it has it's own log4.xml which has this single logger: <appender-ref ref="PMP_FILE"/> and a file appender called pmp_file if it try to place in jboss.xml this: <appender-ref ref="PMPCONSOLE"/> <appender-ref ref="SocketAppender"/> where pmp console is another console appender inside log4j of jboss it would only work after i re-save the file when jboss went up. my original target was to keep jboss's original info limitation for all projects other then my own ear classes View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4251882#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...