hi there, is there an easy way to user the/a renderer to produce a binary PDF rather than the implicit usage of the document store and the renderer returnin a redirect html page? That would be using the "view pipeline" as a means to produce binary data and further process that programmatically (such as storing into a database or file). btw. this question is partly based on the fact, that I still don't grab the runtime specifics of the whole pdf thing in seam. I configured everything ok, and sometimes I can retrieve a PDF, sometimes not. I still get those IllegalStateExceptions every now and than and I just don't understand why and based upon which exact runtime conditions. I would be very much interested, if I am the only one with those PDF problems. Maybe I'm just too stupid. It drives me mad.... thanks a lot for you feedback and happy eastern! :ollix View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4035642#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...