Great Job!! - it's funny, I've been working on this exact issue today. Only instead of changing the ejb timer I removed the offending EJB from the jar. Same effect because we are not using that EJB in the example. Since I was working on the 10.0.3 tech preview when I got past the EJB issue I ran into the issue where EJB's only work with kodo/openJPA. The last thing I was working on was the JSF issue that you describe. I'll try your solution tomorrow. The best way to post files or patches is through jira - here is the link for this issue: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBSEAM-2482 I'm curious about the interceptor and deployment file changes that you made as well. After I get the example running I'll update the reference guide with this info. Thanks again, Jay View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4127235#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...