Mark, Can I get some feedback from you? You don't want to run inside application server, but do you care if JBPM (or some other JBoss.org, non-app server project) required a specific directory structure to run? How do you intend to run JBPM? In Tomcat? In your own Java SE process? I ask this because we're developing an Embedded JBoss project that would allow you to bring things a la carte to non-AS environments like Tomcat and plain, vanilla Java SE. This project is designed to work in the environments classloader and designed to boot superfast. Its in JBoss AS HEAD SVN under the embedded/ module if you're interested. Thanks View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4029145#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...