I could try it, but literally NO messages at all are displaying relating to my applications. Not when they deploy, nothing. Absolute silence. Something is very very wrong. I have long wanted Sun to come up with a way to send log messages to the console with absolute certainty. Instead of working on my software I'm struggling to get logging to work. I guess I will try the @Logger, and System.out. I could also just use a FileWriter or something. It is absurd that Java comes with all these features but still does not have a reliable logging mechanism. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4001709#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...