I think what pete is getting at is that you are currently trying to outject a Page scoped object from a session scoped bean. By putting the outjection and factory in a separate page scoped bean (the page scoped manager) you are splitting the problem up. Your page scoped users are not being generated from a session scoped bean and you aren't having to deal with two scopes in the same bean. Something like : | @Name("userList") | @Stateful | @Scope(PAGE) | @Restrict("#{identity.loggedIn}") | public class UserList implements UserListInterface { | | @Out | @DataModel("users") | private List<User> users; | | @Factory("users") | public List<User> getUsers() { } | | } | Cheers, Andy View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4112792#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...