Shane Your a flipping star nice one mate! youve saved me a real headache... i must have looked all over and asked everyone what the deal was with the doc examples with having BOTH the authenticate-method and jass-config-name... like this... <security:identity authenticate-method="#{authenticator.authenticate}" jaas-config-name="SMSLDAP" /> ....its off to chapter 5 we go..... hiiiiiii hooooooooooooooooooo Cheers again View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4066911#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...